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By ~ Le Saint X ~
#572890
Pre nekolko godina je izasla lista 100 najboljih romana gej knjizevnosti…
Ovde sam naveo prvih 10 ( na sajtu postoji lista od 30)
Zanima me koje ste knjige od ovih 10 ( ili neke druge sa liste,a koji nisu u prvih 10 ) procitali i koje imate u svojoj kolekciji…

1. SMRT U VENECIJI
(Der Tod in Venedig)

2. ĐOVANIJEVA SOBA
(Giovanni's Room)

3: CVETNA BOGORODICA
(Notre Dame de Fleurs)

4: U POTRAZI ZA IZGUBLJENIM VREMENOM
(A la recherche du temps perdu)

Francuski romanopisac Marsel Prust (Marcel Proust, 1871-1922) najpoznatiji je po svom monumentalnom autobiografskom delu ''U potrazi za izgubljenim vremenom'' (sadrži preko 3.000 stranica). Kako je bolovao od astme, a bio bogat i finansijski obezbeđen, najveći deo života proveo je zatvoren u sobi, spavajući danju i radeci nocu
U navedenom delu, koje se smatra izuzetno značajnim za novi francuski roman, usputna ali znatna pažnja je posvećena služavci Albertini, dosta misterioznoj ličnosti, i njenim navodnim lezbejskim sklonostima i željama. Neki analitičari smatraju da je u pitanju bio muškarac, Albert, koga je Prust u knjizi namerno pretvorio u ženu. U knjizi ''Sodoma i Gomora'' Prust je donekle davao opise homoseksualnih orgija.
(Napomena!!!!!Napomena!!!!!Albertina u knjizi uopste nije sluzavka! I njene lezbejske sklonosti nisu navodne vec vrlo eksplicitne u skoro 1/3 romana!
Opis homoseksualnih orgija!? Postoji samo jedna epizoda ( ne toliko duga) u kojoj se pojavljuje Charlus koga bicuju.)

5.IMORALIST
(L'Immoraliste)

6.ORLANDO
(Orlando)

7.BUNAR SAMOĆE
(The Well Of Loneliness)

8.POLJUBAC ŽENE PAUKA
(El beso da la mujer arana)

9.HADRIJANOVI MEMOARI
(Les memoires d'Hadrien)

10.ZAMI




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a evo, za znatizeljne i svih 100 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Death in Venice by Thomas Mann
2. Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin
3. Our Lady of the Flowers by Jean Genet
4. Remembrance of Things Past by Marcel Proust
5. The Immoralist by Andre Gide
6. Orlando by Virginia Woolf
7. The Well of Loneliness by Radclyffe Hall
8. Kiss of the Spider Woman by Manuel Puig
9. The Memoirs of Hadrian by Marguerite Yourcenar
10. Zami by Audré Lorde
11. The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
12. Nightwood by Djuna Barnes
13. Billy Budd by Herman Melville
14. A Boy's Own Story by Edmund White
15. Dancer from the Dance by Andrew Holleran
16. Maurice by E. M. Forster
17. The City and the Pillar by Gore Vidal
18. Rubyfruit Jungle by Rita Mae Brown
19. Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh
20. Confessions of a Mask by Yukio Mishima
21. The Member of the Wedding by Carson McCullers
22. City of Night by John Rechy
23. Myra Breckinridge by Gore Vidal
24. Patience and Sarah by Isabel Miller
25. The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas by Gertrude Stein
26. Other Voices, Other Rooms by Truman Capote
27. The Bostonians by Henry James
28. Two Serious Ladies by Jane Bowles
29. Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison
30. The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
31. Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
32. The Persian Boy by Mary Renault
33. A Single Man by Christopher Isherwood
34. The Swimming Pool Library by Alan Hollinghurst
35. Olivia by Dorothy Bussy
36. The Price of Salt (Carol) by Patricia Highsmith
37. Aquamarine by Carol Anshaw
38. Another Country by James Baldwin
39. Chéri by Colette
40. The Turn of the Screw by Henry James
41. The Color Purple by Alice Walker
42. Women in Love by D. H. Lawrence
43. Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
44. The Friendly Young Ladies (The Middle Mist) by Mary Renault
45. Young Törless by Robert Musil
46. Eustace Chisholm and the Works by James Purdy
47. The Story of Harold by Terry Andrews
48. The Gallery by John Horne Burns
49. Sister Gin by June Arnold
50. Ready to Catch Him Should He Fall by Neil Bartlett
51. Father of Frankenstein by Christopher Bram
52. Naked Lunch by William Burroughs
53. The Berlin Stories by Christopher Isherwood
54. The Young and Evil by Charles Henri Ford and Parker Tyler
55. Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit by Jeanette Winterson
56. A Visitation of Spirits by Randall Kenan
57. Three Lives by Gertrude Stein
58. Concerning the Eccentricities of Cardinal Pirelli by Ronald Firbank
59. Rat Bohemia by Sarah Schulman
60. Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
61. The Counterfeiters by André Gide
62. The Passion by Jeanette Winterson
63. Lover by Bertha Harris
64. Moby Dick by Herman Melville
65. La Bâtarde by Violette Leduc
66. Death Comes for the Archbishop by Willa Cather
67. To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
68. The Satyricon by Petronius
69. The Alexandria Quartet by Lawrence Durrell
70. Special Friendships by Roger Peyrefitte
71. The Changelings by Jo Sinclair
72. Paradiso by José Lezama Lima
73. Sheeper by Irving Rosenthal
74. Les Guerilleres by Monique Wittig
75. The Child Manuela (Mädchen in Uniform) by Christa Winsloe
76. An Arrow's Flight by Mark Merlis
77. The Gaudy Image by William Talsman
78. The Exquisite Corpse by Alfred Chester
79. Was by Geoff Ryman
80. Théresè and Isabelle by Violette Leduc
81. Gemini by Michel Tournier
82. The Beautiful Room Is Empty by Edmund White
83. The Children's Crusade by Rebecca Brown
84. The Story of the Night by Colm Toibin
85. The Holy Terrors (Les Enfants Terribles) by Jean Cocteau
86. Hell Has No Limits by José Donoso
87. Riverfinger Women by Elana Nachman (Dykewomon)
88. The Man Who Fell in Love with the Moon by Tom Spanbauer
89. Closer by Dennis Cooper
90. Lost Illusions by Honoré de Balzac
91. Miss Peabody's Inheritance by Elizabeth Jolley
92. René's Flesh by Virgilio Piñera
93. Funny Boy by Shyam Selvadurai
94. Wasteland by Jo Sinclair
95. Mrs. Stevens Hears the Mermaids Singing by May Sarton
96. Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell
97. Autobiography of a Family Photo by Jacqueline Woodson
98. In Thrall by Jane DeLynn
99. On Strike Against God by Joanna Russ
100. Sita by Kate Millett
By ~ Le Saint X ~
#572892
Ja sam procitao i imam sve u svojoj kolekciji osim br. 10 i 7.

Njih jos nema na srpskom...A na engleskom ne znam gde bih mogao da ih nabavim!

Naravno...Prust & U potrazi za izgubljenim vremenom
je
za mene

# 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:zastava:
:france:
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By spliff
#572907
ima poljubac zzene pauka na srpskom, odavno je izdat....
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By Ombeliko Brunner
#572947
S ove liste prochitao sam samo Djovanijevu sobu.

A na kom mestu na ovoj listi je Ispovest maske Jukia Mishime?
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By Egon
#572951
Originally posted by spliff
ima poljubac zzene pauka na srpskom, odavno je izdat....
nisam chitao al sam gledao predstavu ...

kapiram da je roman bolji ...
By ~ Le Saint X ~
#573013
'Poljubac zene pauka' je
pre neki dan izasao u onim malim kompetima knjiga- dzepnim - koji se prodaju na trafikama za 200 dinara!

Ispovest Maske je na 20. mestu :)
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By Paki
#573041
Pročitah Holingherstovu "Bazensku biblioteku" (The Swimming Pool Library), nije među prvih 10 sa te liste, ali je ok. Preporučujem, svakako. :)
By Ulix
#573184
Najvise mi se dopadaju Kapoti, Vulf, Nabokov, Vidal, Misima, Iservud.

Secam se da sam citao sledece knjige:
Originally posted by Renoir
1. Death in Venice by Thomas Mann
2. Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin
4. Remembrance of Things Past by Marcel Proust
5. The Immoralist by Andre Gide
6. Orlando by Virginia Woolf
7. The Well of Loneliness by Radclyffe Hall
8. Kiss of the Spider Woman by Manuel Puig
9. The Memoirs of Hadrian by Marguerite Yourcenar
11. The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
16. Maurice by E. M. Forster
17. The City and the Pillar by Gore Vidal
20. Confessions of a Mask by Yukio Mishima
23. Myra Breckinridge by Gore Vidal
26. Other Voices, Other Rooms by Truman Capote
31. Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
33. A Single Man by Christopher Isherwood
40. The Turn of the Screw by Henry James
41. The Color Purple by Alice Walker
42. Women in Love by D. H. Lawrence
43. Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
44. The Friendly Young Ladies (The Middle Mist) by Mary Renault
52. Naked Lunch by William Burroughs
53. The Berlin Stories by Christopher Isherwood
60. Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
61. The Counterfeiters by André Gide
62. The Passion by Jeanette Winterson
67. To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
69. The Alexandria Quartet by Lawrence Durrell
81. Gemini by Michel Tournier
90. Lost Illusions by Honoré de Balzac
PS
Lista je potpuno bezveze, kao sto, uglavnom, takve liste uvek budu.

Svesti Bledu vatru na gej roman... :drama: Nabokov se okrece u grobu.
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By Paki
#573314
Zaboravih Manovu "Smrt u Veneciji"... :zid:
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By 2Q2Bstr8
#573412
hmm, nisam čitao listu, ali znam da su definitivno na njoj Puig i Mishima. možda ima još nešto što sam čitao.

btw, o Puigu mislim da je već pisano negde, a knjiga postoji već 15 godina u prevodu na srpski. bila je čitava biblioteka hispanoamerički roman gde je objavljeno 10 najpoznatijih pisaca latinske amerike, a to je sve iz 80-i-neke, zajedničko izdanje bosanske prosvjete i još nekog srbijanskog izdavača. žao mi je što nisam gledao predstavu. svojevremeno se davala u JDP.

i da, nije da se rukovodim listom, ali ima tu dosta knjiga koje su pomenute, a koje odavno želim da ih pročitam. i to što piše "top 100" ne treba shvatiti toliko bukvalno. možda to jesu najboljih 100 gej romana, ali ne mora da znači da je zaista Thomas Mann #1.
By Ulix
#573606
Originally posted by 2Q2Bstr8
možda to jesu najboljih 100 gej romana, ali ne mora da znači da je zaista Thomas Mann #1.
Iz te liste vidimo samo jedno: "gej roman" je veeeeoooooma rasteljiv pojam. Rastegljiviji od lastisa iz gaca mog tate.
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By dalabu
#581626
bazenska piblioteka je bacen novac i uzgubljneo vreme,mora da je preporucio neko ko cita jednu knjigu godisnje....
By tennis maniac
#584395
nisam imao prilike da citam neki gej roman,procitao sam kratku verziju odlicnog romana the front runner,za koji se sledece godine radi film i jedva cekam da vidim ko ce glumiti glavne junake,prica je odlicna
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By djo
#609572
Originally posted by Egon
Originally posted by spliff
ima poljubac zzene pauka na srpskom, odavno je izdat....
nisam chitao al sam gledao predstavu ...

kapiram da je roman bolji ...
zaista NEUPOREDIVO

steta sto puiga ne prevode vise. zapoceo sam 'betrayed by rita hayworth' (ne znam kako se zove original) na engleskom pre 10 godina i nisam uspeo da ga zavrsim a jako mi se dopao. bas bih voleo da u skorije vreme neko to prevede... :sigh:

a sa ovakvim listama nikad necu biti zadovoljan, sve bih ja to drugacije rasporedio :D
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By djo
#609574
Originally posted by Renoir
3: CVETNA BOGORODICA
(Notre Dame de Fleurs)
ovo je kod nas (sfrj) prevedeno kao 'gospa od cvijeca' :oklagija:
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By Mr.Ja
#609581
A u srbistranu bi je preveli kao Cveta...
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By djo
#609582
Originally posted by Mr.Ja
A u srbistranu bi je preveli kao Cveta...
hmmm, jel to kao onaj crkveni praznik? :puzzle:
By ~ Le Saint X ~
#842777
U Americi
je
vrlo IN
knjiga

THE FRONT RUNNER

koju nisam ni u New Yorku ni Torontu mogao da nadjem...
a na srpski prevod da ne pomisljam...
da li ej neko citao ili zna za link mozda na netu?
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By ns.happy
#842848
procitao sam Djovanijevu sobu. meni je to.... ma, bolje da ne komentarisem...:praznoglavi:
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By spliff
#842859
Originally posted by Paki
Pročitah Holingherstovu "Bazensku biblioteku" (The Swimming Pool Library), nije među prvih 10 sa te liste, ali je ok. Preporučujem, svakako. :)
apsolutno se slazzem! ne znam da li ima prevod na srpski, ja sam chitao originalno izdanje
By rent_guy
#842890
A od kada je ovo? Zasto nema Cunninghama?

"The Hours"
"Specimen Days"
"A Home At The End of the World"
"Flesh and Blood"
By ~ Le Saint X ~
#842994
Originally posted by ns.happy
procitao sam Djovanijevu sobu. meni je to.... ma, bolje da ne komentarisem... :praznoglavi:
Pa, gde je nadje???
Ja nikako da je nadjem i kupim!
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By ns.happy
#843035
moj bivsi je negde maznuo... veruj mi, nista ne propustas... par citata koji necemu vrede si vec negde procitao kod mene, pisah o tome... jan-feb mislim...
By ~ Le Saint X ~
#843044
mozda nisi bio bas u tom fazonu ..
za svaku knjigu treba trenutak...

ne verujem da je toliko losa
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By ns.happy
#843056
prosecna je jako. ali si u pravu za trenutak, na njega je npr ostavila jak utisak, ona ga je , bar tako kaze, naterala da razmisli o svojoj seksualnosti.. i posle kazu da knjige ne mogu da preobrate strejtere... :roflmao:
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By Nocturnal
#843162
A zasto na spisku nema Muskih suza od Biljane Bibe Petrovic :lol: :lol: :lol: ? Molim da se greska odmah ispravi :) .
:sesir:
NOX
By ~ Le Saint X ~
#843403
Originally posted by Nocturnal
A zasto na spisku nema Muskih suza od Biljane Bibe Petrovic :lol: :lol: :lol: ? Molim da se greska odmah ispravi :) .
:sesir:
NOX
Mozda jer prvo MUSKE SUZE treba da se prevedu an engleski, da bi sastavljaci lista uopste uzeli tu knjigu u razmatranje
et toq!
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