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By antibiotic
#2066999
Ma ljudi ovo nece da izadje na dobro.

Do sada je bilo svako cudo za 3 dana, ali na svim kanalima ne prestaju da pricaju na ovu temu.
Sada zele da premeste wikileaks bazu u evropu.

Da li je to stvarno doslo vreme gde vise niko nista nece moci da sakrije od javnosti - od poverljivih drzavnih dokumenata sve do privatnih stvari?
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By Mars
#2067001
Privatne stvari odavno nisu nikakva tajna.

Što se ovog tiče...plan im je da se razvuče na više od 3 dana, ali na to gledam kao na dosnimavanje epozoda za "Dinastiju" nekad. I onda opet zaborav.

Nije isključeno da odrade nešto što bi malo skrenulo pažnju javnosti (ubiju Kraljicu, papu, postave bombicu na Times Square za mesec dana...) ali posle toga svejedno...ništa.
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By antibiotic
#2067020
Mislis?

Meni se cini da je taj recept 'odvuci paznju javnosti nekim skandalom od sustinskih problema' dobio neke groteskne razmere i oblike, sto znaci da bez obzira sto izgleda mnogo bitno, a nije - vremenom ipak postaje sve bitniji faktor u razvoju planete.

Np. sav ovaj wikileaks burlesque ucini da drzavne tajne ne budu vise tajne i to dovoljno promeni nacin vodjenja politike u buducnosti, a bio je 'samo jedan od skandala'.
Kao kad JK napise kolumnu i svi pricaju o tome kao da ju je neki povampireni nobelobelovac napisao, a na kraju stvari ipak ne budu iste kao sto su bile - bez obzira sto se brzo zaborave, a gladni ostanu i dalje gladni...
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By Mars
#2067024
Ne znam.

Istorija je pokazala da sam ja potpuni promašaj kada su predviđanja ovakve vrste u pitanju, tako da vrlo vrlo moguće da si ti u pravu a ne ja.
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By Lucem Ferre
#2067045
Originally posted by Popeye

so anyway... ne znam jeste li primijetili najnovije masovno curenje povjerljivih podataka zahvaljujuci ekipi iz wikileaksa... sada je objavljena komunikacija izmedju americkih ambasada i konzularnih preedstavnistva sa state departmenotom. :cheer:

vise info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world ... es.html?hp

uglavnom, kak se vama cini to sto radi wikileaks? podrzavate li?

p.s.
evo sta amerikanci iz berlina javise o gnjidi westerwelleu u washington :lol:

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 BERLIN 001162

SUBJECT: GERMANY'S NEXT FOREIGN MINISTER
Westerwelle is openly gay. He has said that this
was not a problem at home since he was raised to be
...self-confident and his family was very liberal.
Ironically, Westerwelle is conservative on gay rights
In his free time enjoys concerts and reading, running, volleyball,
sailing, horseback riding, and mountain biking.


uh, koji burzujski ljigavac. :bljak:
ne podržavam!
Podmetačina je to sumnjiva!
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By Srklet
#2067085
ok. a jel mi moze netko objasniti tko onda stoji iza svega toga i koji je tajni cilj cijele wikileaks-operacije? :trep:
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By unic0rn
#2067117
(s) Swedish military and civilian intelligence
organizations are strong and reliable partners on a range of
key issues, particularly making a significant contribution to
our understanding of events inside the Russian military and
in Iran's nuclear ambitions. The good cooperation on
counterterrorism, both domestically and internationally, has
helped Swedish authorities carry out their mandate to protect
Swedish citizens and national interests. Due to domestic
political considerations, the extent of this cooperation in
not widely known within the Swedish government and it would
be useful to acknowledge this cooperation privately, as
public mention of the cooperation would open up the
government to domestic criticism.

:wundy:

Svedska demokratska transparentna drzava :wundy:
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By antibiotic
#2067119
Berdimuhammedov is vain, fastidious, vindictive, a micro-manager....
He also is the only son in a family of eight children....

:lol:
By loreenche
#2067123
Evo, sad cujem na vestima PTPC-a da Amerika ima oko 70 dokumenata vezanih za DoDicka :D

Go Figure :)
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By unic0rn
#2067127
Serbia and Kosovo
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¶9. (C) Fried explained that the U.S. had decided to offer PFP to Serbia as a means of supporting democratic forces in the upcoming elections; President Tadic had made a strong case for Serbia’s Euro-Atlantic future. Similar considerations had prompted the U.S. to support Ahtisaari’s recommendation to postpone tabling his proposals on Kosovo status. But it was critical to move quickly after January 21. Additional delay would encourage the Serbs and others into thinking the West felt intimidated; it was time to push onward to supervised independence. Fried said that while Russia could be expected to cause difficulties, in the end he believed it would abstain on a UNSCR, although he could not be certain. What was certain was that the Russians must not be allowed to believe that the threat of a veto will work, because they would exploit any opening. The West therefore had to send the signal that it was prepared to move without them if necessary, because no signal would be interpreted as tacit acquiescence in Russia’s raising the bar. This was a terrible option, but paralysis was worse.

¶10. (C) MGM reviewed the history of French-Serbian relations (back to the Salonika Front of WWI, on which MGM’s grandfather had served), judged PFP as a positive offer, and said Chirac had proposed to Merkel that the EU move to a Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) with Serbia, even in the event of insufficient ICTY cooperation. Merkel had initially responded negatively, citing Tadic’s failure to request it, but France continued to believe that offering SAA could make a difference in the January elections. If the Germans were not on board by early January, France would move on its own to propose SAA. As for the Ahtisaari proposals, MGM said Putin had told the French “Russia will not hesitate
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to veto any solution that does not enjoy the agreement of all the stakeholders.” MGM urged great caution in moving forward, citing Putin’s purported concerns about the risks of a partition and a merging of the north with Serbia and the south with Albania, leading potentially to a radicalized Muslim state in the heart of Europe.

¶11. (C) Fried responded that the Serbs and Albanians had been told that Kosovo would be independent, and that it would be a mistake to turn back. Perhaps the Russians were bluffing, but even if they were not, wavering would lead to disaster, beginning with riots by Kosovars that risked turning KFOR into an occupying force and could led to the very radicalization we had successfully avoided so far. MGM said France was not advocating further delay, but was nonetheless concerned that independence could have unintended consequences. Public opinion could change, and Russia might become yet more irrational in the run-up to legislative and presidential elections. Fried agreed on the desirability of negotiating a UN Security Council Resolution that would be acceptable to the Russians -- perhaps even leaving out the word “independence” -- but the West needed to be prepared in extremis to move forward without Russian support. Russia would seize on any paralysis to try to raise the bar. MGM agreed in principle, but urged again finding ways to “coddle” Russia.

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/20 ... S7755.html
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By sing&dunum
#2067128
:blentavi:

Zanimljivo mi je da uopste nisam u toku STA je sve "receno" na WikiLeaks... :lol:

Tek sam skoro nacuo da se "nesto tamo desava opako" :giggle: , a nisam imao zivaca da se udubim i ishcitavam... :blush:


:plavuso:
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By Srklet
#2071301
uhapšen assange.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world ... ge.html?hp

btw, moram priznati da mi je ovo jako bizarna optuznica za silovanje:

The charges involve sexual encounters that two women say began as consensual but became nonconsensual after Mr. Assange was no longer using a condom.

mislim, kak to izgleda u praksi? oni se jebu, assange u sred seksa kaze 'samo malo' i skine kondom s kurca? :nesiguran:

ovo je valjda po prvi puta u zivotu da mi se optuzba za silovanje cini namjestenom. :shrug:
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By unic0rn
#2071317
Al pazi kad toliko nista nisu uspeli da iskopaju o njemu nego ovo nesto.

Crvena poternica interpola zbog puknutog kurtona :lol: :smeh:
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By deran
#2071322
portal stoji, wikiLeaks-ovci prete da će na 100000 adresa slati izveštaje,ukoliko se asanž uhapsi...

neke novosti u vezi toga?
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By Lux_bl
#2071414
Podrzavam ideju da ljudi saznaju za neke mutne poslove pojedinih vlada... Dok god to ne povrijedi ljude.

Citam svaki dan i na neke se informacije smijem, a zbog drugih mi se place... od smijeha... :krezavi:

Samo da ovo ne izazove 3. svjetski, s obzirom da se zahuktava i da bi svasta jos mogli prenijeti ...
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By Vel boy
#2071432
a ajmerichki desnichari tj. repukeblikanci, mccain, christian right i sl. kazu da je assange faggot i da zato ne treba faggots-ima tj. gejevima dozvoliti u vojsku....... :alikako:
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By Vel boy
#2071440
umalo zaboravih josh reci da krmak newt gingrich, mike huckabee-fuckabee otvoreno po medijima pozivaju to physically eliminate, neutralize, execute assange-a..... divota..... :radosnice:
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By Srklet
#2072037
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wol ... 93033.html

Dear Interpol:

As a longtime feminist activist, I have been overjoyed to discover your new commitment to engaging in global manhunts to arrest and prosecute men who behave like narcissistic jerks to women they are dating.

I see that Julian Assange is accused of having consensual sex with two women, in one case using a condom that broke. I understand, from the alleged victims' complaints to the media, that Assange is also accused of texting and tweeting in the taxi on the way to one of the women's apartments while on a date, and, disgustingly enough, 'reading stories about himself online' in the cab.

Both alleged victims are also upset that he began dating a second woman while still being in a relationship with the first. (Of course, as a feminist, I am also pleased that the alleged victims are using feminist-inspired rhetoric and law to assuage what appears to be personal injured feelings. That's what our brave suffragette foremothers intended!).

Thank you again, Interpol. I know you will now prioritize the global manhunt for 1.3 million guys I have heard similar complaints about personally in the US alone -- there is an entire fraternity at the University of Texas you need to arrest immediately. I also have firsthand information that John Smith in Providence, Rhode Island, went to a stag party -- with strippers! -- that his girlfriend wanted him to skip, and that Mark Levinson in Corvallis, Oregon, did not notice that his girlfriend got a really cute new haircut -- even though it was THREE INCHES SHORTER.

Terrorists. Go get 'em, Interpol!

Yours gratefully,

Naomi Wolf


:lol:
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By Lepa Krepa
#2072223
Originally posted by Popeye

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wol ... 93033.html

Dear Interpol:

As a longtime feminist activist, I have been overjoyed to discover your new commitment to engaging in global manhunts to arrest and prosecute men who behave like narcissistic jerks to women they are dating.

I see that Julian Assange is accused of having consensual sex with two women, in one case using a condom that broke. I understand, from the alleged victims' complaints to the media, that Assange is also accused of texting and tweeting in the taxi on the way to one of the women's apartments while on a date, and, disgustingly enough, 'reading stories about himself online' in the cab.

Both alleged victims are also upset that he began dating a second woman while still being in a relationship with the first. (Of course, as a feminist, I am also pleased that the alleged victims are using feminist-inspired rhetoric and law to assuage what appears to be personal injured feelings. That's what our brave suffragette foremothers intended!).

Thank you again, Interpol. I know you will now prioritize the global manhunt for 1.3 million guys I have heard similar complaints about personally in the US alone -- there is an entire fraternity at the University of Texas you need to arrest immediately. I also have firsthand information that John Smith in Providence, Rhode Island, went to a stag party -- with strippers! -- that his girlfriend wanted him to skip, and that Mark Levinson in Corvallis, Oregon, did not notice that his girlfriend got a really cute new haircut -- even though it was THREE INCHES SHORTER.

Terrorists. Go get 'em, Interpol!

Yours gratefully,

Naomi Wolf


:lol:
ovo je fakat duhovito, al' mi se nikako ne da da se nasmejem.
prestrašno, on levels more than one. baš ono za pobesneti.

čitam juče da je par hakera sjebalo sajt švajcarske pošte, nakon što su mu blokirali račun. :up: nadam se da će da ih (koga god treba) udaraju gde god stignu sve dok je čovek u zatvoru.
argh.
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By Lepa Krepa
#2072224
Originally posted by unic0rn

(s) Swedish military and civilian intelligence
organizations are strong and reliable partners on a range of
key issues, particularly making a significant contribution to
our understanding of events inside the Russian military and
in Iran's nuclear ambitions. The good cooperation on
counterterrorism, both domestically and internationally, has
helped Swedish authorities carry out their mandate to protect
Swedish citizens and national interests. Due to domestic
political considerations, the extent of this cooperation in
not widely known within the Swedish government and it would
be useful to acknowledge this cooperation privately, as
public mention of the cooperation would open up the
government to domestic criticism.

:wundy:

Svedska demokratska transparentna drzava :wundy:
:yes:
osma na svetu po prihodu od prodaje oružja (per capita).
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By jovanabeograd
#2072238
Prvi put zapravo zelim da kliknem na Donate button i uplatim deo svoje studentske crkavice gosn Asanzu. Sjebali su i MasterCard International, i PayPal sajt, a posebno mi je drago zbog PostFinance, jer su im salteruse neljubazne. :kosa:
I smell IT WW1.

Inace, svedski zakon o silovanju mi je hajlajt ove nedelje. :yes:
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