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By jukie
#1184045
Originally posted by pthalo
yay, onda nisam sama. Moja drugarica je pokušala da mi objasni, a ja čujem samo: "ch i ch, čuješ razliku? ch, ch"
Kod č udaraš u nepce samim vrhom jezika okrenutim na gore (L) i to je jako i oštro kao tch (kao detlić ili svraka)

kod ć udaraš u nepce gornjom stranom prednje strane jezika koja je skoro horizontalna, i zvuk je sličniji šuškanju i šaputanju i cvrkutu malih ptičica
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By pthalo
#1184047
@Machkodlak:

omg. zavolela sam. hvala hvala hvala. prelepa je. odmah je skinem sa youtube-a.

:kiss:
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By jukie
#1184057
A zatim su tu i omiljene brzalice:

četiri čavčića na čančiću čučeći ćijuču
(ćijuču sa ć zato što smo rekli da male ptice govore ć)

čika čvorak čuva četu čavki
čik, čvorče, čik
čukni čavki čvrgu
čik
* * *

na engleskom da ti bude lakše da razumeš:

four jackdaw chicks, on a small bowl*, squating, chirp

*for example the heavy-duty one used by campers for stew/beans
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By m..
#1184261
Originally posted by pthalo
:blush:

hvala za ohrabrenje. :)

@jukie: učim srpski. i neko je želeo da zna kako zvučim. to je sve.

@Machkodlak: ne znam. Bila sam u nešto teško deo života i meni ništa nije zanimalo. Onda, jednom noć, čitala sam knjigu i igrala sam se na kompjuteru dok slušala Beoviziju, čekajući Istražitelji iz Majamija i čula sam glas kao anđeo. I videla sam Jelenu Tomašević u oni crveni haljini sa prelepom crnom kosom, kao kraljica, zaista. I nisam više čitala knjigu, nisam se igrala na kompjuteru, samo sam je buljila kako peva. I otada život mi ponovo zanima i svaki dan učim srpski. Zavolela sam u nje, u pesmu Oro, u srpski jeziku. Čitam forumi, čitam Harija Potera, čitam "teach yourself serbian" knjigu, pišem, slušam muziku... Jezik je lep.

@J: američki engleski mi je maternji jezik. A ponekad (nesvesno) imam mađarski naglasak na engleskom (verovatno jer živim u Mađarskoj već sedam godine).

@dungoll: to je dobra ideja, da pročitam nešto. Možda pročitaću nešto, ili recitujem nešto koji sam zapamtila. To je lakše nego pretražiti reči kad ne znam šta da kažem. :)

@starsailor: još uvek ne čujem razlika između ć i č, samo pamtim gde koja slova treba.

@svima:
:blush: :grouphug: :blush:

Ja ideju nisam imala da ti srpski nije maternji jezik. Citala sam neke postove i nista mi nije zaskripalo.
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By Berserker
#1184281
Vishe puta sam rekao, van ove teme, a i ponovitju da bash dobro govorish srpski...
:)
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By Mademoiselle
#1184506
@pthalo
Imas prelep, ali prelep glas. Onako zenski nezan.
Ukoliko ti bude potrebna pomoc u vezi sa srpskim jezikom slobodno mi se obrati (verujem da isto vazi za sve koji su pisali nesto na ovoj temi).
Samo napred! :)

I ja bih volela da komuniciram sa native speaker-ima engleskog jezika :)
ps. Greske u rodovima su neizbezne, posto madjarski jezik nema rodove, a ona je (koliko shvatam) odatle.
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By pthalo
#1184679
@M: Hvala. :) :friends:

@looda krawitza:

kad govorim na telefonu sa strancima uvek mi pitaju "da li su tvoji roditelji kod kuće?" Kažem "nisu". "da li znaš kada ćete se vrati?" "ne znam." Bojim se da jednom dana neko će zvoniti policija da ima jedna 5 godišnja devojčica sama kod kući. :lol: imam 24 godine. Živim u Mađarskoj već sedam godine. I hvala Bogu nemamo rodove. Dosta je da imamo oko 25 padeža. možeš da komuniciraš sa mnom na engleskom i ispravljaću greške. I ja bih volela da znam kako bi izgledale moje rečenice bez grešaka. :)




Pročitam nešto. Čitam na ćirilicom kao devojčica u 2. razredu. :kesa: http://pthalogreen.livejournal.com/589639.html
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By Hys.
#1184698
Awwww....how sweet :) !

Here is some help for you:

c'-pronounced like T at the begining of tube but with the tip of the tongue pushed behind the top front teeth.

ch-pronounced like the ch at the begining of child but with the tip of the tongue raised toward the roof of the mouth and pulled back.

Hope that helps :namig2:
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By Hys.
#1184702
Btw, how are you learning Serbian? Please answer in english, I want to show this to my wife, who is supposed to be learning too :tuc:

Your progress is amazing, if you are learning for only 4 months! How much time do you devote to it (per day, week)?
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By reveal
#1184704
Srpski jezik je dosta tezak i svaka cast sto si odlucila da ga naucis! Ide ti jako dobro!

Inace, ja znam par recenica na madjarskom i ko zna kako to zvuci! :lol:
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By pthalo
#1184713
@Nanny's wife

The closest approximation I can get to ć is the Hungarian ty, which is a similar sort of sound, but still different. I can pronounce "tube" Britishly though. :)

I'm learning Serbian pretty much all day every day especially since it's summer and I'm bored out of my mind visiting my mother, far away from my real life in Hungary. And before that I had a sprained ankle so I was doing nothing quite a bit and had a lot of time for reading. I've got a really good book "Teach yourself Serbian". The book says you can find it at http://www.teachyourself.co.uk. I listen to music in Serbian pretty much all the time, but that's not the best way to learn because they use a different word order for singing than speaking. Confusing!

I read forums: this one, and some fan forums for some Serbian singers I like. The games are the easiest because you don't have to be able to write long intelligent paragraphs. :) But I'm starting to write longer things. I'm reading Harry Potter, found it in Croatian online. I make myself write stuff everyday. I watched a few movies in Serbian, but it's really hard without subtitles. I have to watch several times before I can laugh at the jokes. I read the forums with a dictionary and that's really good for vocabulary and I'm starting to rely on it less and less.

There's also a forum at phrasebase.com for foreigners learning Serbian, but it's not very active. http://www.phrasebase.com/forum/board.php?FID=64

But yeah, basically just try to immerse myself in the language as much as possible. My interest in Serbian is almost autistic. (I'm not autistic, but my method of learning Serbian isn't that different from an autistic person's level of concentration and fascination with memorising a perpetual calendar). I try to think in Serbian. I try to use echolaelia in Serbian, which is really useful for working out word order and usage for certain words. But my echolaelia isn't very communicative yet in Serbian. (It is for the most part in English).

You probably have less time than I do (I'm a bored college student home for the summer), but I'd recommend maybe listening to cassettes in Serbian even if you don't understand while on the tube to work or trying to think in Serbian as much as you can.

And Harry Potter's great, because it's written for 11 year olds. :)

Oh, and you can find subtitles in Serbian for plenty of movies online, just google them and you'll find stuff. So you can watch movies in English and read subtitles in Serbian. Hope that helps.
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By pthalo
#1184714
Originally posted by reveal
Srpski jezik je dosta tezak i svaka cast sto si odlucila da ga naucis! Ide ti jako dobro!

Inace, ja znam par recenica na madjarskom i ko zna kako to zvuci! :lol:
hvala!

ajde da te čujemo na mađarskom! :D
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By reveal
#1184717
Nemam pojma kako se sta pise pa cu probati po srpski :D

Dakle:

Kerek edj pohar vizet? Nemtudom vodasni. Bozmeg kechket kapsturot!

:lol: :cool2:
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By pthalo
#1184723
hahahaha :)

mađar rečenice za tebe: :D
"Negyvenháromszor negyvenhárom ezernyolcszáznegyvenkilenc" (neđven harom sor neđven harom ezer njolcaz neđven kilenc) - četrdeset tri puta četrdeset tri je hiljadu osamsto četrdeset devet

Elnézést, megtudna nekem mondani mennyi az idő? - elnejzejšt, mektudna nekem mondani menji az idő? - Izvinite, da li ste u mogućnosti da mi kažete koliko ima sat?

A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal - a lejkparnaš hajom tele van angolnakal - Moja lebdilica je puna jegulja
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By Hys.
#1184745
Awww thank you hun :kiss: !
She does have a book "teach your self Serbian"
btw, it's for my wife, not my husband :D

My wife is english :)

edit:
I ll show her what you wrote when she comes back from work. It is different for her, cuz she doesnt have as much time, but I am sure she will find some :cita:
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By jukie
#1184751
Originally posted by pthalo
Pročitam nešto. Čitam na ćirilicom kao devojčica u 2. razredu. :kesa:
Ako će da te uteši, više od polovine dečaka u osmom razredu čita i piše ćirilicom kao da su drugi razred... tj. kako su u prvom razredu naučili da se povlači olovka kada se pišu reči, tako pišu i osam godina kasnije. Evolucija rukopisa se dešava samo kod devojčica I guess.
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By pthalo
#1184760
@Nanny, *looks confused* so you're Serbian, the same Nanny Ogg that I've talked to in Serbian on the forum several times? you're just writing me in English to confuse me as to your identity? ;) (well, probably for your wife's benefit, and i don't have to look words up in the dictionary in English) :) I thought you were your partner writing on your account. Your English is like a native speaker's. And I'm now thoroughly confused. :)

anyway, pričaj ponekad sa njom na srpskom, upotrebajući jezik znakove kad te ne konta. :)

:kiss:
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By Hys.
#1184791
:giggle:

Yap, this is me, Nanny Ogg, I am writing in english for your benefit and also cuz of my wife, so she can see this :)
And thank you for the compliment :kiss:

Btw, my wife has a profile here, its "confucius"-we even have our thread "devokICA an confucius playground" in "Zelje Pozdravi"

(devokICA is my old nick)
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By pthalo
#1184817
slatke ste na ovom temi. mislim da sam već videla ovu temu (a nisam već pročitala ima nešto 30 stranci), i pogrešno sam mislila da ona je momak jer je napisan "Her English boi" i zbog avatara. she could pass if she wanted to. ja ne mogu jer imam žensko glas. :/
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By Hys.
#1185018
Yap, I've seen your post :)

Hy can pass sometimes, though voice aint that deep. Mine is deeper :giggle:
It's boI not boy, I am sure you know the difference, but its easy mistake to make :)
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By pthalo
#1185054
naravno da znam razliku između boi i boy, a ponekad boi-ovi koriste muško zamenici. I wasn't reading all that carefully. :)
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By Hys.
#1185074
Hy prefers to use Hy, online :)

Btw, serbian for boi is decka :D Sucha a cute slang noun :giggle:
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By pthalo
#1185095
nemam pojma kako se izgovore hy.

na engleskom, koristim bilo koji zamenica za sebe (he, she, i, it, we). Na srpskom bolje ako ne iskomplikujem stvari. Kad budem naučila jezik mogu da se igram rodove. :) na mađarskom ja sam 'ő' (on/a). Volim da mogu na mađarskom da dugo pričam i ne treba da se autovam ako ne želim.
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By Hys.
#1185102
Hy-He se izgovara, it kinda makes sense only in writing :)

Da, srpski je tu zajebat', odmah moras da se odlucis za rod :sigh:
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By pthalo
#1185121
ako nisam odlučilo, mogu li koristiti srednji rod? :)
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By Hys.
#1185135
hmmmm...neobicno je...posto se u srpskom srednji rod koristi za nezive predmete i decu...
Ali koristi sta tebi odgovara :)
Aorist je za to dobar, recimo-Ja beh' Radih' Nadjoh'
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By pthalo
#1185143
još nisam naučila aorist. jel' aorist kad je nešto tek završilo?
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By Mademoiselle
#1185268
Moglo bi se reci. :)
Ma, znas sta, preporucujem ja tebi da nadjes neku Srpkinju za :fuckbed: i naucices jezik kao od sale:)
Od cele Madjarske naci ce se valjda jedna.
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