[url=http://www.gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2632742#p2632742]Ulix napisao:[/url][url=http://www.gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2632740#p2632740]Vel boy napisao:[/url]izlišno je više komentarisati srpske nacišoviniste, ali kad smo već "kod" Mađarske, tom zemljom vladaju s visokim rejtingom (sic!) fidesz i satelit mu jobbik govna, tako da ja i da sam Mađar se ne bih baš busao sadašnjim, tj. od fidesz uzjahivanja na vlast, stanjem stvari u mađarštini. ta zemlja je i bi trebala biti zapravo na rubu izbacivanja iz EU.
svaka čast svim umerenijim i progresivnijim Mađarima i Mađaricama koji su prve žrtve fidesz-jobbik mađarskog nacišovinizma.
može se sasvim reći da se mađarski i srpski nacišovinisti uzajamno pothranjuju u novije vreme.
Kako je mađarska politika postala tema? Tema je nacionalna netrepeljivost DSS članova. Ovo što pišeš je na ivici jako ružne zamene teza, mogu tačno da čujem isti taj DSS kako poteže takav argument "možda smo mi fašisti, ali i oni su".
(Uostalom, koliko god da je Jobbik odvratan, preterivanje je reći da zbog toga Mađarska treba biti izbačena iz EU, pre svega jer se nešto umivenija ali vrednosno ista retorika može čuti povremeno i od Angele Merkel, recimo, pa nisam čuo da bi izbacivao Nemačku iz EU; o Italiji da ne govorimo, to što Jobbik govori možeš čuti od Lege Nord svaki drugi dan.)
Ulix, izgleda da si u polemičkom pa i svađalačkom raspoloženju. i to u vezi nečeg čega nisi baš u pravu.
ja ne bih bez debela razloga primio u mom webmail-u 30.-og Marta ove godine od Watchdog. net-a (samo jedan i tek najnoviji materijal koji se bavi stanjem stvari u Mađarskoj)
http://act.watchdog.net/petitions/2675?f=Vj7B3gl4GRA" target="_blank koji tačno kaže Don't Let Hungary Go The Way Of Nazi Germany: Demand EU Action Today!
ja ne bih bez debela razloga imao šta da pročitam i na Wikipediji kada samo ukucam Elections in Hungary 2014. ........
ja ne bih bez debela razloga primio u mom webmail-u juče dakle i manje od pre 24 sata
Elisa Massimino, Human Rights First via mail.salsalabs.net
10:32 AM (23 hours ago)
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Dear Vel,
This revolting statement was spoken publicly by a recently re-elected member of the Hungarian Parliament. She represents the extremist Jobbik party, which last month won more than 20% of the votes in Hungary’s national elections. Jobbik is now poised to gain seats in the European Parliament elections later this month.
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vidiš Ulix, pomenute su i ostale zemlje u kojima je nacišovinizam jak i ojačao, ali u Nemačkoj, Grčkoj, Italiji.... ipak se bore protiv njihovih nacišovinizama. u Mađarskoj nažalost imamo perzistentno aktivno na pijedestalu fidesz (dakle, ne samo jobbik, a puna vlast) koketiranje s jobbik-om (kobajagi opozicija, a zapravo pravi satelit fidesz-u).
a ja jasno rekoh, to i ponavljam, svaka čast svim umerenijim i progresivnijim Mađarima i Mađaricama koji su prve žrtve fidesz-jobbik mađarskog nacišovinizma.
tako da je bestidno od tebe Ulixe imputiranje meni nekog antimađarskog sentimenta i to ni manje ni više nego poredeći me s d(ss)om
so
, samo zato jer ukazah i rekoh da se srpski i mađarski nacišovinisti pothranjuju.
I nikom nista??? Kako bi bilo, ovo samo pitam, da npr. Nemacka donese zakon po kojem bi svi oni koji su nekada ziveli na teritoriju koju je bivsi nemacki kancelar Hitler smatrao za nemacki teritorij, dobijaju drzavljanstvo Nemacke?
) , slicne zakone imaju i pojedine "velike" zemlje EU (Francuska, Spanija) dakle ako mogu oni, mogu i drugi.