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Gay Shame is a movement from within the LGBT and queer communities described as a radical alternative to gay mainstreaming and directly posits an alternative view of traditional "gay pride" events and activities which have become increasingly commercialized with corporate sponsors and "safer" agendas to avoid offending supporters and sponsors.

The Gay Shame movement has grown to embrace radical expression, counter-culture ideologies and avante garde arts and artists.

Critics point out that as the Gay Shame events themselves grow they will have to develop the same strategies for sponsorship and support that traditional gay pride events have used.

Unutar svega ocoga postoji jos fantastichan broj srodnih
pokreta kao sto su Queercore, Dumba,

Queercore is a cultural and social movement that began in the mid 1980's as an offshoot of punk. It is distinguished by a discontent with society in general and a complete disavowal of the mainstream gay and lesbian community and what those involved believe to be its oppressive agenda.

Queercore expresses itself in DIY style through zines, music, writing, art and film.

As a musical genre, it may be distinguished by lyrics exploring themes of prejudice and dealing with issues such as sexual identity, gender identity and the rights of the individual; more generally bands offer a critique of society endemic to their position within it, sometimes in a light-hearted way, sometimes seriously. Musically, many queercore bands originated in the punk scene but the industrial music culture has been influential as well.

Queercore groups encompass many genres such as hardcore punk, synthpunk, indie rock, power pop, no wave, noise, experimental, industrial and others.

u principu radikalizovan pokret unutar same LGBT zajednice, koja sa
zastavom duginih boja nema ama bash nishta ....

Meni iz ove balkanske vizure ovo izgleda prilichno egzotichno ( u nedostatku subkulture ovih prostora) ali ne dovoljno svrsishodno ...

chim nadjem vremena pozabavio bih se pisanjem nekog malo ozbiljnijeg teksta o ovome ....

Pre godinu dana ili tako nešto sam natrčao na queercore muzikicu i krenuo da istražujem ali mislim da sem jednog benda nisam daleko dogurao. Teško se pronalaze...Mislim da ću pokušati opet. Ono što sam čuo mi je bilo zanimljivo.

pa meni je prvo L7 i Veruca Salt i (mozda) Babes in Toyland
pao napamet

ali nemaju bas oni veze sa tim u toj meri,
kao sa Riot Grrrrl! pravcem

A da, zaboravio sam da dodam. Taj jedini bend koji sam pronašao je Tracy + The Plastics i dosta podseća na Peaches. Mislim da sam čak i Peaches video na nekoj listi queercore artista.

mozda najpoznatiji band iz ovog pravca jeste 3 Dollar Bill

Nikad čuo. Neki link možda, tjub, fm? Hoćem da se informišem.

sumnjam da ima ....

Pa nisam bas shvatio cemu sluze ti extremisti...ali koliko vidi to je najvise vezano za umetnost i muziku...:bezzzveze:

Samo se nadam da nije to nesto u fazonu:"jaoo mene blam sto spavam sa muskarcima,a i ovi gay taktovi
me nerviraju too"
U svakom slucaju po nekim stavovima se mogu svrastati u extremiste,barem na relaciji str8-gay life-a...ajde malo pojasni njihove stavove.(Mrzi me da trazim po netu....)

Originally posted by Egon
Why are you proud to be gay?

I presume you were born that way.

I’m not proud to be white,

Want it written in lights,

I just am, as it happens,

Touché?



Why are you “gay” anyway?

You can’t hijack my language that way!

It’s a lovely word,

I’m as gay as a bird!

But I still prefer girls

To lay.



Why must you wave a pink flag?

Just to show you’re a practicing fag?

I’m no homophobe

Wear no church as a robe

But your militancy

Makes me gag.



To address you with all due respect,

It may not be politically correct!

To question the ways

Of you fashionable “gays”

But I do, so go on!

Object!



What have we come to today,

When we feel we cannot rightly say,

I’m straight and its great!

I’ll not participate

In a “gay pride” march

No way!!

I ko ovo kao peva? Eminem? ili neki od jamajkanskih reggaeovaca?

"You can’t hijack my language that way!"
Znala sam da nesto poput ovoga postoji.

sto dovodi do pitanja, koje stalno postavljam.

zasto je uopste rech "gay" zhargonski sinonim za homoseksualnost?

to nikako nisam ukapirao ....

shta tu uopste ima "veselo" ...

jel druge seksualne orijentacije nisu vesele?

Originally posted by Deity Marduk
Pa nisam bas shvatio cemu sluze ti extremisti...ali koliko vidi to je najvise vezano za umetnost i muziku...:bezzzveze:

Samo se nadam da nije to nesto u fazonu:"jaoo mene blam sto spavam sa muskarcima,a i ovi gay taktovi
me nerviraju too"
U svakom slucaju po nekim stavovima se mogu svrastati u extremiste,barem na relaciji str8-gay life-a...ajde malo pojasni njihove stavove.(Mrzi me da trazim po netu....)

prvo ne mogu da objasnim njihove stavove jer nisam iz te priche ...
niti me toliko to zanima, samo mi je bilo interesantno.
Manje vishe ... uvek su mi bili uzhasno zanimljivi i uzbudljivi svi podkulturni pokreti pa se negde slozhim i uklopim, a negde ne ....









pa kapiram da je teshko skapirati iz ovog shupka sveta .... ali (navodno) negde tamo, neko dobro i uspeshno profitira na "gay kulturi" ....

..... a ne zove se Boris


ups, jel sam to rekao ili pomislio?




:medo, nista zlonamerno ali odlicno mi se uklopilo kao punchline:

I dalje ne shvatam zashto ova tema nije u Kulturi (ako se vec nekako ishchasheno ovo i moze smatrati za neku kulturu) , umesto u Aktivizmu.

Originally posted by Egon
..... a ne zove se Boris


ups, jel sam to rekao ili pomislio?

Originally posted by Egon
..... a ne zove se Boris


ups, jel sam to rekao ili pomislio?




:medo, nista zlonamerno ali odlicno mi se uklopilo kao punchline:

Nice shoes

Originally posted by Egon
sto dovodi do pitanja, koje stalno postavljam.

zasto je uopste rech "gay" zhargonski sinonim za homoseksualnost?

to nikako nisam ukapirao ....

shta tu uopste ima "veselo" ...

jel druge seksualne orijentacije nisu vesele?

gej nije žargonski sinonim. imaš fantastičan tekst o tome, objavljen pre par meseci na naslovnici o tome kako je reč gej ušla u upotrebu i kada.

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